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Vosene
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01 Apr 2012 : 21:52:13
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Flight leads who took part in this Sunday's mission, "Keep Your Tanks On" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.
Please put the following information at the top of your post:
Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Mission Outcome: MS,PS,MF
Posts by this Tuesday please.
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Elmo
UNITED KINGDOM
238 Posts
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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 : 22:04:10
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Flight Role: (ESCORT)
Falcon11: "Elmo" AA=4 AG=X RTB
Falcon12: "Novac" AA=3 AG=X RTB
Falcon13: "Floyd" AA=2 AG=X RTB
Falcon14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB
Mission Outcome: MS
RECORD BEGIN TIMESTAMP 4/1/2012 21:35:54.
Game is Tactical Engagement type Networked
Mission name: Keep Your Pants On
Mission Type: Escort
Flight Unique Id: Falcon1
4 Ship Flight
Ac type: F-16C-52
Contry: U.S.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Elmo joined as Falcon11 at 09:10:03
Event Novac joined as Falcon12 at 09:10:03
Event Floyd joined as Falcon13 at 09:10:04
Event DPRK MiG-29S downed by Elmo at 09:22:15
Event DPRK MiG-29S downed by Falcon14 at 09:22:44
Event DPRK SU-20 downed by Elmo at 09:23:17
Event DPRK SU-20 downed by Elmo at 09:23:39
Event DPRK SU-20 downed by Novac at 09:23:46
Event DPRK MiG-25 downed by Novac at 09:27:19
Event DPRK MiG-25 downed by Falcon14 at 09:29:29
Event DPRK MiG-25 downed by Falcon14 at 09:33:18
Event DPRK SU-20 downed by Elmo at 09:37:52
Event DPRK SU-20 downed by Novac at 09:38:06
Event DPRK MiG-25 downed by Floyd at 09:39:38
Event DPRK MiG-29S downed by Floyd at 09:46:04
Event Floyd landed at 10:00:21
Event Novac landed at 10:11:03
Event Elmo landed at 10:11:09
Event Floyd exited from Falcon13 at 10:17:38
Event Novac exited from Falcon12 at 10:18:06
Event Elmo exited from Falcon11 at 10:18:16
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PILOT SLOT 3:
Human Player: Capt. Floyd
Callsign: Floyd
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 2
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 1
Hit 5
Event AIM-120B released at 09:22:09@72hit MiG-29S - damaged
Event AIM-120B released at 09:23:28@72hit MiG-25 - damaged
Event AIM-120B released at 09:28:23@72miss
Event AIM-120B released at 09:32:35@72hit MiG-25 - damaged
Event AIM-120B released at 09:38:48@72hit MiG-25 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:44:47@72hit MiG-29S - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: 370 Gal Tank
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 1:
Human Player: Maj. Elmo
Callsign: Elmo
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 4
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 1
Hit 5
Event AIM-120B released at 09:21:14@72hit MiG-29S - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:22:20@72hit SU-20 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:22:51@72hit SU-20 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:24:35@72miss
Event AIM-120B released at 09:26:03@72hit MiG-25 - damaged
Event AIM-120B released at 09:37:03@72hit SU-20 - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: 370 Gal Tank
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 2:
Human Player: 2Lt. Novac
Callsign: Novac
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 3
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 3
Hit 3
Event AIM-120B released at 09:21:19@72miss
Event AIM-120B released at 09:22:46@72hit SU-20 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:27:00@72hit MiG-25 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:30:08@72miss
Event AIM-120B released at 09:37:05@72hit SU-20 - destroyed
Event AIM-120B released at 09:49:23@72miss
LOADOUT 2: 370 Gal Tank
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
Took off and whilst climbing were asked to engage Mig29s to West of flight plan, after engaging and cranking started heading towards a 4 ship of SU-20s so took them out, while cranking from those had a 2 ship of Mig25s, whilst cold on those another 2 ship of Mig25 appeared who we also engaged. Eventually after these first few engagements managed to turn back towards target area where there were another couple of Migs which I think were being engaged by Fury1. We then headed to target where there were a group of Mig29s who we got 2 slammers off on before turning cold and capping in the SA2 circle which was still being shown as active however never fired a missile and then finally returned home with all aircraft intact.
Elmo
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
320 Posts
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Posted - 02 Apr 2012 : 08:43:49
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Flight Role: (Sead)
Fury11: "Joif" AA=3 AG=1 EJT
Fury12: "Sabre" AA=1 AG=X RTB
Fury13: "Mango" AA=1 AG=X RTB
Mission Outcome: MS
Once again no debrief.txt for me
After take off we engaged a group of SU-20's that were headed in the direction of the strike flight. 3 of these were quickly splashed but had to pursue a runner still headed for the strike flight costing valuable fuel for myself and Sabre but once in range was engaged easily.
After this engagement the escort flight had dealt with the Mig 29 threat inbound from the West, we then proceeded to engage the first SA-2, I engaged this with a AGM-88 which destroyed the fan song with no issues despite being placed in a static search radar building, after the missile hit the actual search radar it was placed in was still active so I overflew the area just to confirm the SA-2 was no longer a threat before I was happy for the strike flight to move up.
We then proceeded to the next SA-2 site, we then had Mig25 contacts heading in from the west and also a Mig 25 capping over the second SA-2 site. The escort flight dealt with the west Mig25's. Mango got in range and fired his first Harm at the second SA-2 and turned cold on the MiG25 well out of its range we then awaited the escort flight.
Also after the initial skirmish with the SU-20's and Sabre was also carrying MK84's instead of tanks as a backup if the Harm strike had been ineffective on the first SA-2 site he was at this point starting to run low on fuel and RTB'd with the intention of a hotpit refuel.
Once the MiG 25 had been destroyed we continued to engage the SA-2 site again.. the second harm was launched at the SA-2 at this point I was in the SA-2 envelope with the intention of keeping the radar emitting hoping for a higher chance of success with the HARM but this missile also looks to have missed, shortly afterwards I was hit.
My own personal downfall was getting too complacent with the SA-2.. I had dodged around 6 launches prior but put little effort into avoiding the final missile whilst trying to co-ordinate with 3, from what Mango tells me that the SA-2 never launched after this so I presume it had fired all its missiles which I didn't know was implemented.
I think I'll blame karma for our issues, we got lucky that the first SA-2 was destroyed so easily, but were very unlucky to have had 2 harms that had missed on the second SA-2.
I have alot of personal lessons learnt in regards to leading the flight and apologies for any missed comms calls. Overall congrats to the strike flight they still managed to get the job done given the difficult circumstances, and thanks to Vosene for an excellent job as AWACS making sure the necessary flights were kept out of harms way and provided an excellent picture for both air and ground threats. I found there was alot of broadcast chatter which sometimes made in flight co-ordination difficult but once we switched over to UHF 13 it was alot more manageable.. I can also confirm that after getting shot down I was still able to hear the inflight broadcast comms with no issues so UHF #13 is the way to go in future.
If anyone has anything to add, feel free to speak up.
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mango
Israel
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Posted - 02 Apr 2012 : 09:20:48
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Just a few additions, flew the mission again this morning, the AI pilot also took out the the first SA2 radar with one harm so I think that unlike ordinary buildings the domed radar buildings are destructible with Harms. Also took out the other two SA2s with one harm each, so I really dont know what happened last night with the two Harms I missed on the second SA2 which resulted in Joif losing his aircraft, obviously it was my bad and not anything related to BMS.Got the strike flight debrief txt if needed, but not the sead escorts for some reason. |
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 02 Apr 2012 : 09:53:54
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Don't worry about it Mango, there's not alot you can do wrong with harms probably the easiest weapon to employ when used with the HAD it was just bad luck. Only an acmi will be able confirm where they disappeared to.
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Crowebar
UNITED KINGDOM
1473 Posts
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Posted - 03 Apr 2012 : 09:41:31
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Flight Role: (Strike)
Cowboy11: "Crowebar" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Cowboy12: AI
Cowboy13: "Dmans1" AA=0 AG=1 RTB
Cowboy14: AI
Mission Outcome: MS
A good well balanced mission with enough going on to keep us on our toes thanks Wolfman.
Shortly after takeoff we altered course to the East to avoid the gathering bandits to the West. But within minutes we picked up a 4 ship Mig29S approaching from the East and turned back West. Magic directed us to support Fury who were engaged with SU-20's, which we did, getting a volley off each before turning away to run South. Held to the South until Fury and Falcon had cleared the skies and proceeded North when directed by Magic.
We held outside SA-2 engagement zone while Fury attempted to neutralize it, and when this didnt happen we were cleared hot on target. So as SA-2 was still active we dropped down to A1 for our attack run. Almost immediately we were alerted to Mig-29S flight in close proximity and climbed to engage, while within SA2 zone. #1 got 1 slammer away, which missed before going defensive SA-2, #3 got a couple of slammers away, managing to damage one of the Migs. Dmans1 was also able to find a window of opportunity to fire his Mavericks at the bridge and destroy it, with everything else going on at the time with the SA2 and Migs. So well done Dmans1.
Uneventfull RTB for a battle break and landing at Homeplate.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Crowebar joined as Cowboy11 at 09:11:03
Event Dmans1 joined as Cowboy13 at 09:11:05
Event AA-7R launched at Crowebar 09:23:34
Event DPRK MiG-25 downed by Cowboy14 at 09:25:44
Event SA2 launched at Crowebar 09:52:52
Event SA2 launched at Crowebar 09:53:00
Event SA2 launched at Crowebar 09:53:15
Event SA2 launched at Crowebar 09:53:22
Event Crowebar landed at 10:15:07
Event Dmans1 landed at 10:15:38
Event Crowebar exited from Cowboy11 at 10:17:44
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PILOT SLOT 1:
Human Player: 2Lt. Crowebar
Callsign: Crowebar
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 5
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 1
Missed 1
Hit 0
Event AIM-120C released at 09:23:15@72miss
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65G
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: 370 Gal Tank
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 3:
Human Player: 2Lt. Dmans1
Callsign: Dmans1
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 3
Missed 2
Hit 1
Event AIM-120C released at 09:23:40@72miss
Event AIM-120C released at 09:53:14@72miss
Event AIM-120C released at 09:55:52@72hit MiG-29S - damaged
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65G
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 1
Hit 1
Event AGM-65G released at 09:56:14@72hit Bridge - destroyed
Event AGM-65G released at 09:56:22@72miss
LOADOUT 3: 370 Gal Tank
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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wolfman
SWEDEN
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Posted - 03 Apr 2012 : 16:16:11
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| Sorry I missed it, had to go to Gran Canaria for a week. Try not do it again :) |
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Crowebar
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 03 Apr 2012 : 18:18:35
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Hope you left some beer for me - going in June
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Sunday 01st April - Keep Your Tanks On
