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Zipgun Posted - 15 Jun 2016 : 21:55:04


Here is the mission frag this Sunday - it is a repeat of last Sunday!

PYTHON1 4 SHIP SEAD
Objectives: at least 1 SA-10 + 3+ more SAMs=MS .. +2 more SAMs=PS

SHARK1 4 SHIP TARCAP
Objectives: No losses due to AA = MS .... No AA losses to PYTHON1 = PS

More flights can be added if more than 8 attend.

There are at least 2 AWACS expected on station by PUSH time.

Please verify you have a working theater before Saturday eve.

Campaign save files: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w3ycmlyhgn5pqs1/19%20JUN%20Mission.zip?dl=0
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Vosene Posted - 20 Jun 2016 : 01:31:56
Yes a very good mission and big congratulations to Fisty on a great lead in his first Sunday mission as Flight Lead.

Poppy Posted - 19 Jun 2016 : 22:04:48
Flight Role: TARCAP

Shark11: "Poppy" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Shark12: "Wildcat" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Shark13: "Zipgun" AA=0 AG=0 RTB

Mission Outcome: MS (no losses to SEAD flight due to A-A threats)

Ingress as fragged, setup the CAP, stripped to north east (NW was clear). Timing was spot on and a picture clear we we're able to execute the flight plan as fragged. Covered SEAD on their egress and a glorious flight home, mission accomplished!

Congrats Fisty on his first flight lead! Great job!


Poppy
Fisty Posted - 19 Jun 2016 : 21:24:14
Flight Role: SEAD

Callsign11: "Fisty" AA=0 AG=2 (1xSA-10, 1xSA-11) RTB
Callsign12: "Mango" AA=0 AG=2 (2x SA-11) RTB
Callsign13: "Sabre" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Callsign14: "Vosene" AA=0 AG=1 (1xSA-10) RTB

Mission Outcome: MS


Flight ingressed to STP 3, where Escort cleared us into the AO. 1 assigned an SA-11 target to 2, but he was No Joy, so 1 took the shot and destroyed it. 3 and 4 were then cleared in hot while 1 and 2 went cold, but they were engaged defensive the SA-10 so 1 and 2 went gate to support and 1 then destroyed the Flap Lid. 2 then engage 2 other SA-11 along the FLOT and destroyed them. We were then tasked NE by Shark1 to engage SA-10s. 4 managed to destroy one of the Flap Lids, and 3 was cleared in hot to expend his remaining 88s on SA-11s, but he had problems with his MFDs (possibly tech?) and came off dry.
Flight then egressed in Finger-4 and 3&4 called low fuel so 3 took the lead to land, followed by 4, 1 and 2. No problems at landing, all down safe. An enjoyable flight and first lead for me.


Vosene Posted - 19 Jun 2016 : 21:10:16
Flight Leads in this Sunday's official campaign mission, "185th Campaign Mission 2" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.

Please put the following information at the top of your post:

Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT

Mission Outcome: MS/PS/MF

Fisty Posted - 17 Jun 2016 : 17:21:14
Well in that case, we need to change the mission success parameter, since we're not going after any
SA-10s. Otherwise it's a MF before we even get in the pit.

quote:
Originally posted by Zipgun


PYTHON1 4 SHIP SEAD
Objectives: at least 1 SA-10 + 3+ more SAMs=MS .. +2 more SAMs=PS
Zipgun Posted - 17 Jun 2016 : 13:26:35
If you look at the ACMI from last week, at least 1 SA-11 still remains in the battalion you engaged and there are others along the FLOT (including Fire Cans). As Poppy said pressing too far north without a picture (ACMI recon) with SA-11s around may not end well. If you want, we can move the central and eastern FLOT and start working, but we have less "picture" there.

Good discussion tho.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bc9zxdfhcfgulq/sHARK1_%20TVT.acmi?dl=0
Fisty Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 20:07:52
If we do that, we're sort of playing for a draw. MS = 1 SA-10 and 3 others destroyed.
Poppy Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 17:49:13
You can do it, but you won't come back. Fighting an SA-10 over hostile ground with no recon? Plus a very hot air picture? Pretty much suicide. I'd say pick a 50x50 or 30x30 box and work it with spotting the SAM's with AGM-88's, and follow up with MAV's or something. But just taking 88's is safer. I know there are plenty of SAM's out there who we haven't seen yet.
I'd say rework the area until it's clear and forge a path from there

Poppy
Fisty Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 04:17:19
The SA-10 was about 50 miles north of the FLOT. If there are any others to the South, they weren't searching. Shouldn't we extend the flightplan North to take us within range of our 88s?
Vosene Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 00:19:37
quote:
Originally posted by Zipgun

Follow on killing more SAMs



Thanks Zipgun.



Zipgun Posted - 16 Jun 2016 : 00:11:21
Follow on killing more SAMs
Vosene Posted - 15 Jun 2016 : 22:40:26
Thank Zipgun.

Can you just confirm, is this a re-fly of last Sunday's mission or is it a follow on mission in the same area to finish the job of knocking out the SA-10?


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