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Vosene
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 31 Aug 2014 : 19:11:53
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Flight leads in this Sunday's official campaign mission, "Balkans Campaign 8" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions by Tuesday, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.
Please put the following information at the top of your post:
Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Mission Outcome: MS,PS,MF
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Veiland
DENMARK
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Posted - 31 Aug 2014 : 22:43:56
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Stud11: Veiland AA=0 AG=4 RTB
Stud12: FlyingStone AA=0 AG=1 RTB
Stud13: Floyd AA=1 AG=1 RTB
Stud14: Griffin AA=1 AG=3 RTB
Mission Outcome: MS (??? I missed the beginning of the briefing so not sure what the criteria was)
On the ingress we got nails from SA-10 and when it locked up 1 and 2 we had to egress back towards steeppoint 2 followed by 3 and 4.
Floyd tried one more time but again had to turn back when SA-10 locked him up.
On the ACMI we never got closer to the SA-10 than 42nm but it still prevented us from reaching our target area.
We decided to move up north along the FLOT giving the SA-10 a wide berth.
Turning toward the flot we picked up 2 jamming contacts that runed out to be Galeb's which was taken out by Floyd and Griffin. Behind these there were further jammming contacts which was engaged by 1&2. They turned out to be SU-24's but we aborted the attack as they turned cold.
Meanwhile Floyd & Griffin found some ground targets and attacked these followed by Veiland & FlyingStone.
Griffin had a technical at this point and had to drop out, but not after firing all his weapons.
FlyingStone was launced upon by a SA-11 but immediate reaction and going CAT1 got him out of range of the 2 missiles fired.
All AG weapons gone, we headed back home. A AWACS picture showed MIG-21's at 4000 ft close behind ud. We were fairly low on fuel and MIG-21 are active shooters in this theater so we cancelled climb and picked up speed to get separation. A follow up picture reported exactly same bullseye so at this point they must have been taking off. A little later a Awacs picture showed that they were following us but this point they were trailing ~50mns behind.
Communication from 2, 3 & 4 was exellent. Had SA througout the flight. Obviously a noob flight lead will generate more chatter as I would rather ask for opionions/guidance than just dictate something potentially stupid. Another time I would proberly only ask number 3 rather than the whole flight as to keep the decison loop short.
Debrief Notes:
I believe the decision to abort the attack on the designated target area was correct due to the SA-10, but maybe we should have headed home instead as we landed quite a bit later than the rest of the flightpackage
Package should have had a SEAD flight.
Maybe we should in general load HAD's as it will give us range to SAM threats. Maybe not super realistic, but IRL we would have a much higher level of intelligence available, so our SA would be bettter. |
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FlyingStone
DENMARK
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Posted - 01 Sep 2014 : 02:40:29
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| As far as I heard we didn't actually touch on the criterias but honestly if you ask me it was a failure, or at least only a partical succes since black flights intended target was unhurt. We did kill some other vehicles though. |
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Sabre
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Sep 2014 : 11:07:57
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Viper11: Sabre AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Viper12: Skal AA=0 AG=3 EJT
Viper13: Reds AA=0 AG=0 KIA
Mission Fail insufficient tanks destroyed.
LOA: Jack, Sharpe
Routine take off, proceeded to target as fragged. Sabre had a technical again, Skal took lead and engaged targets. Both Reds and Skal shot down by SA11*.
Insufficient weapons to inflict significant damage on a column of 27 tanks and proximity of SA11/13 real threat.
RECORD BEGIN TIMESTAMP 8/31/2014 21:16:04.
Game is Campaign type Networked
Mission Type: Interdiction
Flight Unique Id: Viper1
3 Ship Flight
Ac type: F-16C-52
Contry: NATO
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Reds joined as Viper13 at 15:58:04
Event Skal joined as Viper12 at 15:58:04
Event Sabre joined as Viper11 at 15:58:05
Event SA11* launched at Skal 16:23:53
Event SA5 launched at Skal 16:23:58
Event SA11* launched at Skal 16:24:08
Event SA11* launched at Reds 16:24:22
Event Yugoslavian T-90 destroyed by Skal at 16:24:26
Event Yugoslavian T-90 destroyed by Skal at 16:24:28
Event Yugoslavian SA-11 destroyed by Skal at 16:24:33
Event SA11* launched at Reds 16:24:36
Event SA11* launched at Skal 16:24:45
Event SA11* launched at Reds 16:25:12
Event Reds downed by Yugoslavian SA-11 at 16:25:20
Event Skal ejected at 16:25:37
Event Skal exited from Viper12 at 16:26:00
Event Sabre landed at 16:56:13
Event Sabre exited from Viper11 at 16:59:55
Footnote: I think I have isolated my technical issue now. switching to AG mode locks the systems into Guns only mode and I can't get out of it by the usual means.
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Zipgun
USA
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Posted - 04 Sep 2014 : 19:23:56
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Fury11: Zipgun AA=0 AG=4 RTB
Fury12: Vosene AA=0 AG=3 RTB
Fury13: Crowbar AA=0 AG=3 RTB
MS
Being last to depart and with the shortest drive to work, we stayed in gate during ingress. At STP2, 2/3 split to hold offshore, 1 went in hot ... 4 rifles and four hits (according to the ACMI) although BMS reported 1 hit. 2 and 3 made a few passes with good success. #2 went defensive after being locked by an SA-10, but all made it home safely.
I'll call it MS because we seemed to have good PK on the targets. |
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