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Vosene
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13 May 2012 : 21:22:04
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Flight leads in this Sunday's mission, "Sparkless Toxicity" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.
Please put the following information at the top of your post:
Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Mission Outcome: MS,PS,MF
Posts by this Tuesday please
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 22:48:38
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Flight Role: STRIKE
Cowboy11: "Joif" AA=3 AG=0 RTB
Cowboy12: "Blade" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Cowboy13: "Novac" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Mission Outcome: MF (Target damaged but not destroyed)
Our briefed attack plan was to use AGM-158's from safely out of the SA-3 engagement zones, shortly before steerpoint 3 Chalis asked us to assist in engagement MiG29's over the target area, I engaged and then went heads down as were right on steerpoint and needed to engage the structures due to our time restraints. At this point the cloud cover had still not cleared as we were hoping to optically guide and make sure they had good lock before firing, so we proceeded to fire based on the target steerpoint co-ordinates from high angels without being able to get visual on our target.
We engaged from our steerpoint 3 as briefed once given clearance to engage from Chalis, we damaged 2 of the structures but one was still intact, Blade managed to get both of his on target which still did not destroy the structure so it was definitely a case of bringing the wrong weapon for the job, in retrospect we could have taken a centre line tank and taken JDAM's as backup but were reluctant to lose our jamming capability due to heavy SAM threats.
On return flight Chalis directed us to engage a 2 ship of MiG 29's, we sorted targets and engaged, we had solid formation going into the engagement so all targets were engaged at a good range and the MiG's never got close enough to return fire.
After both the MiG's had been splashed we proceeded to RTB with only a small diversion from Awacs due to SU-27's which we were never tasked to engage.
All cowboy flight recovered at homeplate.
No complaints with my flight, good comms, good formation, textbook BVR engagements.
Good Mission, taught me a valuable lesson not to rely on AGM-158's.. but I shall need to experiment on their effectiveness against other types of structures as there standoff range was incredible.
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Floyd
Germany
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 07:40:04
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Flight Role: Escort
Buzzaw11: "Floyd" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Buzzaw12: "AI" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Buzzaw13: "Griffin" AA=0 AG=0 EJT
Buzzaw14: "AI" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Mission Outcome: MS
We were flying the Mirage-2000C with 2 semi-active and 2 IR missiles.
After takeoff and climb to 35k, the flight coordinated with the SEAD
escort to have the two SA-2 taken out. Due to problems with the Mirage's
cockpit layout it took some time to check in with AWACS.
N/NE of the two SA-2s were Mig-29 on CAP and we engaged, but the semi-active
missiles didn't hit any bandits (or friendlies :), because it was impossible
to hold the lock long enough (even for the AI pilots).
The fight got out of control when more bandit flights appeared, but the SEAD and
STRIKE flight were able to clear the sky. We lost #3 in one of the engagements.
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Novac
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 18:52:48
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@Joif. Blade managed to get both of his on target which still did not destroy the structure
Maybe it's linked to the online bug that Crowebar and others have noticed while taking cadets though the assessment flight that munitions are hitting their targets but causing little damage
When I get a chance I'll do an offline test with the same targets and munitions and record the results.
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 19:53:14
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I'm having the same bug with the Redflag server at the moment, I can get 100% hits with mavericks and only damage units but checking the state of the battalion afterwards confirms they are destroyed. I think it may have something to do with the penetration warhead too.. I accidently loaded up the Penetration Version of GBU-24's for bridge strikes, each bomb would only damage them (could have been the same bug). Please feedback your findings.
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mango
Israel
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Posted - 15 May 2012 : 07:08:03
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Falcon1 SEAD escort
Falcon 11 Mango A2G 1 A2A 2 RTB
Falcon 12 AI
Falcon 13 Elmo A2G 2 A2A 2 RTB
Falcon 14 AI
MS
Took off climbed to alt 29, locked the two SA2s enroute and passed them to the AIs who obediently (for a change) destroyed them. Proceeded to SP 3 engaged Mig29s on the way at chalices promting, and killed at least 2 of them. Elmo and I then engaged the 3 SA3s around the target Elmo got 2 of them and I the 3rd. At this time the flight was very spread out and I failed to call a rejoin which resulted in losing control and it was pretty much every man to himself. I killed a Mig23 although I was aware another flight was engaging the Mig23s at the time, should have coordinated the shot.
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Griffin
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 15 May 2012 : 07:46:35
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Elmo had 8 out of 8 kills with Maveric D's last night, so somethings working!
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Novac
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 15 May 2012 : 11:50:09
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Just flew several offline test flights with Sundays mission using AGM 158's and didn't have any consistent success.
Sometimes a single JSAM would destroy the factory but in some cases 4 direct hits would only damage it.
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Sunday 13th May - Sparkless Toxicity
