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Dmans1
Greece
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 Posted - 18 Mar 2012 : 22:39:05
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Flight leads who took part in this Sunday's mission, "Sunday March 19th Kick the Tanks ‘n’ Run" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.
Please put the following information at the top of your post:
Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Mission Outcome: MS,PS,MF
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Dmans1
Greece
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Posted - 18 Mar 2012 : 22:47:32
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Flight Role: (PPCAS)
Cowboy11: "Dmans1" AA=3 AG=0 ,8Hits RTB
Cowboy12: "Oly" AA=1 AG=0 ,5hits RTB
Cowboy13: "Joif" AA=3 AG=5 ,5hits RTB
Cowboy14: "HellDiver" AA=1 AG=0, 0Hits EJT
MF because of not scoring the 24 needed hits.
Bummer for Oly and me for hitting 13 targets registering only damages when everything was in flames down there....
Mission debrief will follow. If someone has our debrief.txt please post it cause mine only registered Falcon flight.
Edit: Debrief
Mission Plan: Be the first to go heads down while the other flight provide air cover, once done, switch roles, RTB.
Execution: 4ship Su27 were CAPing over target area, and since we were ahead of the other PPCAS flight we switched roles, and went CAP providing Air Cover. Flight then went heads down, attacking the Battalion. After that, due to the bandits reported on the way home and being joker, flight did a hotpit refuel, provided again Air support while the other PPCAS did a second pass, then headed RTB, with no hostile encounters.
Engagements-Shots Made:
4ship Su27 over target Area: 4 shots , 4 kills, lost #4 due to R27TE (the silent and deadly killer.....)
2ship Mig29A from the South: 2 shots made. 1 kill, 1 leaker, eventually downed WVR by #1.
2ship Mig29S from the North: 2 shots made. 2 kills.
3701 Battalion: 18 good hits on 2 passes per plane.
Lessons learned: Surprisingly none. A/A shots were textbook as far as i could see on the HSD,our downed airplane and the leaker were only due to the fact that we did not have human AWACS and they came on our flank, so we couldn't have an early warning and act accordingly.
A very hard mission overall, due to the fact that we had do deal with very high threats while heavy,loaded with mavericks, but i personally enjoyed it.
PS. Joif, your canopy has a some finger marks. Clean it better next time ;)
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Griffin
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 : 15:15:40
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Dmans, you needed HITS not Kills to count towards the score. Just in case I misunderstood you.
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 : 18:20:41
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Same, I only got Falcon flight too.. I managed to record 128gb worth of video if that will be suffice. 
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Dmans1
Greece
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 : 19:00:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Griffin
Dmans, you needed HITS not Kills to count towards the score. Just in case I misunderstood you.
I know it's hits that counted towards MS criteria, i just mentioned that me and Oly scored 13 hits that were registered only as "damaged" in the debrief
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Oly
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 : 19:45:12
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Yeah I watched the acmi with tacview and all mavs were dead on with explosions on each....weird. Seems that this issue is related to multiplayer, seen it quite a lot now :(
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Joif
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 20 Mar 2012 : 06:20:18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgXmpLeB3xk&feature=youtu.be
For those interested :) Its compressed quite abit to compensate for my poor upload speed so isn't quite Krause quality.
04:30 Takeoff
08:00 First Group Engagement
15:20 Ridiculously Close SU-27
16:54 Second group MiG-29's
19:54 Third group MiG29S
22:20 Start of our flights Mav Attack
32:00 Homeplate Refuel
33:51 Take off for Final leg
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mango
Israel
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Posted - 20 Mar 2012 : 12:59:56
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Falcon 1
Ppcas
1 mango a2a 1 a2g 0 RTB
2 wolfman a2a0 a2g 1 RTB
3 Sabre a2a 1 a2g 0 ?
4 AI
MF
Went heads down before SP3 as Cowboy were engaging air threats and enabled us a clear run in. No joy on ground targets in 2 passes ,after which went A2A to enable second flight to go heads down. Picked up a 4ship Su27 north east of SP3 but had to turn back as they were at the other side of SA3 circle ,turned back hot and 1 and 3 got one each. Lost 3 to some tech issue ? 1 and 2 tried another A2G run but came up dry and being short of fuel returned to homeplate for a hotpit refuel. After trying another A2G run with no joy for me and one hit for2, decided to go to Kandung where we landed safely.
I think the coordination between flights worked well, thanks to Dmans. pretty frustrated at not managing to find any of the tank battalions never mind fire at them, so much for my flying skills...
Game is Tactical Engagement type Networked
Mission name: Kick the Tank n Run
Mission Type: Pre-plan CAS
Flight Unique Id: Falcon1
4 Ship Flight
Ac type: F-16C-40
Contry: U.S.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event 185Sabre joined as Falcon13 at 06:17:03
Event mango joined as Falcon11 at 06:17:03
Event wolfman joined as Falcon12 at 06:17:04
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:36
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:37
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:37
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:37
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:38
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:38
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:38
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:39
Event FAB-250 launched at mango 06:25:39
Event AA-10A launched at 185Sabre 06:43:57
Event DPRK SU-27 downed by 185Sabre at 06:45:01
Event DPRK Shop destroyed by wolfman at 06:45:32
Event 185Sabre exited from Falcon13 at 06:46:54
Event DPRK SU-27 downed by mango at 06:54:27
Event wolfman landed at 07:11:43
Event mango landed at 07:12:12
Event DPRK ZSU23-4 destroyed by wolfman at 07:28:51
Event mango landed at 08:02:12
Event wolfman landed at 08:02:34
Event mango exited from Falcon11 at 08:08:20
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PILOT SLOT 1:
Human Player: 2Lt. mango
Callsign: mango
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 1
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 9
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 1
Missed 0
Hit 1
Event AIM-120C released at 06:53:22@72hit SU-27 - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 8
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 3:
Human Player: 2Lt. 185-Sabre
Callsign: 185Sabre
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 1
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 1
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 1
Missed 0
Hit 1
Event AIM-120C released at 06:43:46@72hit SU-27 - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 8
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 2:
Human Player: 2Lt. wolfman
Callsign: wolfman
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 1
AS Kills 1
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 8
Fired 6
Missed 3
Hit 3
Event AGM-65D released at 06:40:10@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 06:40:19@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 06:44:36@72hit Shop - damaged
Event AGM-65D released at 06:44:43@72hit Shop - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 06:44:50@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 07:28:22@72hit ZSU23-4 - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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Novac
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 20 Mar 2012 : 17:27:31
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Flight Role: PPCAS
Falcon11: Novac AA=3 AG=8 EJT
Falcon12: AI
Falcon13: Blade AA=1 AG=6 RTB
Falcon14: AI
Mission Outcome PS due to one AC loss.
Plan was for Cowboy to be 1st at target and go A2G while Falcon covered A2A. Then swap roles.
Action: In the event Cowboy were 1st to encounter SU27's and lead the engagement. When Cowboy turned cold after the 1st round of shots Falcon was asked to cover. #1 had no radar picture on the bandits but #2 got one kill on an SU27 Not too sure who got what as I have no debrief text and yet again forgot to record an ACMI
Falcon then set up an east, west CAP while Cowboy went A2G.
We picked up a flight of Mig29's which appeared to be Capping close to the SA3 sight.
Around that time Elmo (Cowboy flight) had switched to A2A when the Migs turned hot. Taking both kills.
Falcon was cleared A2G. Both #1 & #3 quickly picked up one of the tank battalions firing 4 mavs each. #1 was A2A after 2nd pass but took a little flak in the process.
#3 then had problems finding suitable/Live targets but got the 6 kills.
We were then RTB. I then knew I had fuel problems and wasn't going to make it back.
Along the route we had a 4 ship of Mig21's with no fuel to divert around them or get home I engaged getting 3 of them. not sure who got the 4th.
I eventually ran out of fuel and ejected. #3 RTB'ing
Lessons Leaned: VERY poor fuel management by me. I did have to use burner at one point when defencive from SU27 missiles but still should have had plenty. I don't know if it was a consequence of being hit by flack but I just couldn't get much speed or alt. Lesson 2, don't get hit by flack!!!
Nice mission Griffin.
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