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Tracer
Sweden
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 Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 13:05:33
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Hi All and congratulations to all participants in the CPL well done everyone.
What I find very good is that we have a fairly good rotation in the CPL ie its not static who are on top and we see different teams move up and other teams go back and train/plan hard to be on the top next month,its an enjoyment to see that all are trying hard to achive thier goals.
Brgds Tracer CO 185th VFS
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Fiero
Poland
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 15:07:54
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Originally posted by Theron
it was an official flight so of course it does.
Ok. let's see.
There are two flights A nad B. B is flying 20 n.miles behind A.
Then there is a group of hostile aircrafts heading straight for flight A.
Flight A engaging those hostiles ang got killed by enemy missiles. Then flight B engaging enemy fighters and kill them, becouse hostile fighters used all missiles on flight A.
So flight A got 100 points and all KIA, while flight B got 300 points and all RTB. Bad tactic for flight A ? Maybe, but flight A just like the other flights have to do exactly what AWACS said.
Maybe this won't happened but is it that far away from what can be happen ?
I think outcome scores from this kind of TEs should not be mixed with others scores in CPL.
Regards, Fiero.
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Theron
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 15:20:55
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Originally posted by fiero
Ok. let's see.
There are two flights A nad B. B is flying 20 n.miles behind A.
Then there is a group of hostile aircrafts heading straight for flight A.
Flight A engaging those hostiles ang got killed by enemy missiles. Then flight B engaging enemy fighters and kill them, becouse hostile fighters used all missiles on flight A.
So flight A got 100 points and all KIA, while flight B got 300 points and all RTB. Bad tactic for flight A ? Maybe, but flight A just like the other flights have to do exactly what AWACS said.
Maybe this won't happened but is it that far away from what can be happen ?
I think outcome scores from this kind of TEs should not be mixed with others scores in CPL.
Regards, Fiero.
and for any other flight night it is different?. even in a package of only 2 4 ships ur still gona have a flight that engages first, followed by the other. If ur really concerned about it there are 2 things u can do: 1. always fly in the second flight. 2. dont get shot down. |
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Theron
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 15:24:09
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Originally posted by Tracer
Hi All and congratulations to all participants in the CPL well done everyone.
What I find very good is that we have a fairly good rotation in the CPL ie its not static who are on top and we see different teams move up and other teams go back and train/plan hard to be on the top next month,its an enjoyment to see that all are trying hard to achive thier goals.
Brgds Tracer CO 185th VFS
i totally agree, this is a real plus point for this squardon and the concept is one of many other reasons that i wanted to join this squadron |
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Fiero
Poland
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 16:01:19
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Originally posted by Theron
and for any other flight night it is different?. even in a package of only 2 4 ships ur still gona have a flight that engages first, followed by the other. If ur really concerned about it there are 2 things u can do: 1. always fly in the second flight. 2. dont get shot down.
Difference between standard TE and 24 pilotsTE is HUGE.
In standard TE your flight is responsible for MS or MF. In TE like last week everyone is responsible for mission outcome.
CPL scoring system is good, but trust me, one person can ruined everyones evening in his flight just to get few points more.
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Theron
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2008 : 17:05:18
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Originally posted by fiero
Difference between standard TE and 24 pilotsTE is HUGE.
In standard TE your flight is responsible for MS or MF. In TE like last week everyone is responsible for mission outcome.
CPL scoring system is good, but trust me, one person can ruined everyones evening in his flight just to get few points more.
With respect to your original problem about getting shot down there is no difference.
With respect to the ms/mf, its a team effort, the rules apply to everyone, in every te you do you will be relying on someone else to help make the mission a success be it someone within ur flight /package / squadron / airforce / allies. Any way the one from last week was a ms so... |
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Reds
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 02 Mar 2008 : 19:06:51
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Originally posted by Novac
Congratulations to all.
Reds, Just wondering...............How many pints of cider (rough stuff) is needed before your gun sight is calibrated 
It usually takes about 8 minutes of the rough stuff and it should be fully aligned .
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Medic
GERMANY
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Posted - 02 Mar 2008 : 22:43:19
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do you mean its strange that one team gets quiet a lot more points than all others fiero?
Medic!
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Fiero
Poland
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 : 17:29:44
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Originally posted by Medic
do you mean its strange that one team gets quiet a lot more points than all others fiero?
Medic!
picture me on yer six
NO !!! 
Ballistic shows perfect example.
AF have limitation of 24 human players/pilots. In 185th we have 4 flights with 8 pilots each, so thats give us 32 human pilots, plus Commanding Officers. Looks like whole squadron can not fly 24pilots TE. Maybe this will help:
Black FL -7 pilots in TE
Blue FL -7 pilots in TE
Green FL -7 pilots in TE
CO -1 pilot in TE
only two pilots can join from Red FL.
Someone needs more examples ?
Fiero
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Medic
GERMANY
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 : 20:19:18
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and the connection to flight A getting splashed while flight B suffers no losses is which now?
Medic!
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Ballistic
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2008 : 12:41:36
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I'm not sure where you are going with this Fiero
Numbers that can fly in 24 pilot TE is a different issue.
The fact that we got shot down and all be it under difficult circumstances, there were only 2 of us out of 4 due to some tech problems so our chances of success were reduced. Nevertheless we did engage and got shot down, we have to accept that, it was our choice. The fact that the rest of the guys managed a MS meant we got the MS points also. The fact that Cobras ramp start did eventually work he took off and RTB'd so we had only 1 home from our original 4 and that would count against us.
Regards,
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Kai
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - 04 Mar 2008 : 13:53:12
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tell you what next time you can get vectored in second and the first flight will suffer the loss an not you!!!
we were all up against a vastly out numbered force and they had better munitions but at the end of the day it is our sunday night
game or simulation but at the end of the day we do it because we like doing it.
if people dont like being shot down then dont take off easy!!
and just be greatfull it's not real life.
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lonewolf
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 : 10:51:09
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Nice to see Blue near the top! Kinda wish I'd made the last flight, would have meant that in all likeliness that Blue flight would be tops for this month! :( Sorry lads!
“When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always
long to return."
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Medic
GERMANY
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Posted - 10 Mar 2008 : 11:06:08
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seems my score of the 24 player TE got removed but not added again. can someone fix this?
Medic!
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lonewolf
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 18:30:15
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Same with me, my score is not present for the Men Of Steel 24 player TE.
“When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always
long to return."
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