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Griffin Posted - 18 Apr 2016 : 22:27:46
There is no vote this week as there is a pressing need to hit a very large group of mechanised forces ready to hit our boys on the bullseye, 26 miles south of Zagreb. They are highlighted on the image as group A.

It is crucial we hit them hard.

There is an SA-2 and AAA battalions in the area, as well as the various unit's own arsenal of manpads and vehicle mounted SAMs.

At this stage it is proposed to use a SEAD/AI mix for two flights of four, with a four ship escort.

Is this the correct option for this mission? What do you think?



There is another smaller group to the east north east of Zagreb that may be of interest later in the day (group B on the image).


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Floyd Posted - 25 Apr 2016 : 12:14:18
Flight Role: Escort
Fury11: "Floyd" AA=5 AG=0 RTB
Fury12: "Griffin" AA=0 AG=0 TECH
Fury13: "Veiland" AA=4 AG=0 RTB

Mission Outcome: MS

The plan was to shift bullseye to a holding point 20nm
from the flot to allow the AI flights a safe area to
operate from with the idea to let the next element push to
target once an element is engaging the target, giving the
elements 20 plus miles to look for targets on ground radar.

The first AI flight needed three passes while the second
flight had to loiter over the safe area. An incoming
group of 4 MiG-29A made it necessary to push the
package even further west.

After several A2A engagements and running low on gas and
missiles, the second flight could have one pass only to
drop their bombs before the package had to RTB.

To comment on attacking the "T" shaped group i would say
that first AI flight's engagement was interupted by the
bandit's attack, so no time to save there anyway and
the second AI would have flown into manpad range earlier
(no pun intended).
Ironman Posted - 24 Apr 2016 : 22:36:50
Flight role AI
Callsign11:"Ironman" 0-1 Ejt
Callsign12:"Mango" 0-0 RTB
Callsign13:"Fisty" 0-1 RTB
Callsign14:"Scruffy" 0-1 RTB
Mission Outcome : MF

Circled over Bullseye as fragged - called in after much A/A action single pass only - we got mauled by manpads - may be MAVs would have been a better stand off option? 3 jets got home - 2 of which were damaged but landed.

I think the original plan to attack the "T" shaped group of targets simultaneously from South to North (Green) and West to East (Blue) would have yielded better results and been over much quicker thus giving the Migs less scramble time.

Escort did a great job keeping the Migs off us - many thanks.

Busy but good comms.

Ironman.

Vosene Posted - 24 Apr 2016 : 22:30:19
Flight Role: ESCORT
Serpent11: "Vosene" AA=4 AG=0 RTB
Serpent12: "Sabre" AA=0 AG=0 EJT

Mission Outcome: MS

Plan.

As the 2-ship, Serpent1 was responsible for putting in a CAP to the SW of the target and covering 180 through 270 degrees out to 40nm.

Execution

Uneventfully ingress and first part of the CAP. As Serpent had just under 10 minutes playtime remaining several enemy groups approached from the E and SE. 1 engaged a J-22 with a Slammer shot and splashed it. Two further shots on a Mig-29A group, 1x damaged, 1x destroyed. 2 fired at a MiG-29A during this engagement and damaged it but got within MAR and was downed, ejecting. As a 1-ship Serpent1 worked with the other Escort, Fury1, and engaged 2 close range G4 Galeb, splashing the first with a single Fox3 and another with 2x shots. After this Serpent11 was Winchester and Bingo so RTB without issue.

Comms were good with Fury1.

Ground strikes took too long as the Escort were already down on fuel when the majority of the enemy aircraft turned up and this is probably down to the plan for each AI Flight to attack sequentially. We should plan should avoid this whenever possible in the future.


utopic Posted - 24 Apr 2016 : 22:14:20
Flight Role: AI
Falcon11: "Utopic" AA=0 AG=4 RTB
Falcon12: "Poppy" AA=0 AG=0 TECH
Falcon13: "Zipgun" AA=2 AG=5 RTB
Falcon14: "Wildcat" AA=2 AG=3 RTB

Mission Outcome: PS

We went AG first in, we did one pass, then we got called off as we had incoming bogies. We held and at some point, went hot again. We did one more pass then went to regroup and then capped for the rest of the flight.

Poppy had a tech, and lost him right after TO.

Zipgun and Wildcat did a good job at shooting down some AA targets of opportunities.
Vosene Posted - 24 Apr 2016 : 21:54:46
Flight Leads in this Sunday's official campaign mission, "Balkans BoP - Mission 2" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.

Please put the following information at the top of your post:

Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT

Mission Outcome: MS/PS/MF


Griffin Posted - 20 Apr 2016 : 21:16:08
Package No 24699

The targets are multiple mechanised units indicated as group A in the first post above.

We shall be flying Block 50 F-16s from Aviano and Tessera.

1851st Sqn - Tessera
Green flight shall fly the first AI group of four in Cowboy 1
TO: 10.32, Push Point (PP) at SP3: 10.40(A26), TOT (SP4): 10.59(A22)

Blue flight shall fly the second AI group in Falcon 1
TO: 10.34, PP (SP3):10.42(A25), TOT (SP4): 11.01 (A22)

1852nd Sqn - Aviano
Black flight is Escort and Package Commander this time in Fury 1
TO: 10.31, PP(SP3): 10.39 (A28+), TOT (SP4): 10.56 (A28+)

Data Link
1 - Cowboy 1
2 - Falcon 1
3 - Fury 1

Weather is expected to be clear for this mission, but no promises.

Success Criteria
AI Flights:
MS - 6 kills/aircraft with no losses to ground fire
PS - 4 kills/aircraft with no losses to ground fire

Escort Flight:
MS - No losses to AI flights from enemy air assets
PS - A maximum of two losses to AI flights from enemy air assets

You will see from the latest intel picture below that there are plenty of enemy air assets on patrol in the target area. They may be of lesser quality than our aircraft but there are still quite a few of them, so plan carefully.



Good Hunting.



Griffin Posted - 19 Apr 2016 : 15:53:41
quote:
Originally posted by Ironman

Weather conditions?



Similar to last week...at the moment.


Ironman Posted - 19 Apr 2016 : 10:11:34
Weather conditions?

Floyd Posted - 19 Apr 2016 : 09:32:22
Sounds reasonable.

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