| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Griffin |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 22:05:50
Flight leads in this Sunday's mission, "Save Your Seoul" are requested to post a debrief of their flights actions, including any lessons learned or that should be learned by others.
Please put the following information at the top of your post:
Flight Role: (SEAD, ESCORT, STRIKE, Etc..)
Callsign11: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign12: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign13: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Callsign14: "Pilot's name" AA=X AG=X RTB,MIA/KIA,EJT
Mission Outcome: MS,PS,MF
Posts by this Tuesday please.
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| 8 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Griffin |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 21:47:27
Thanks Crowebar. I wish they'd get this bug sorted as it's very frustrating when you want to give a half decent briefing with no text available and dodgy memories to work with!
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| Crowebar |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 21:44:37
Griffin I got your debrief text as well as my own. here you go.
Mission Type: On Call CAS
Flight Unique Id: Falcon2
4 Ship Flight
Ac type: F-16C-52
Contry: U.S.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Elmo joined as Falcon23 at 13:17:02
Event Novac joined as Falcon22 at 13:17:02
Event Griffin joined as Falcon21 at 13:17:04
Event Floyd joined as Falcon24 at 13:17:04
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Griffin at 13:28:00
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Griffin at 13:28:07
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Griffin at 13:28:13
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Griffin at 13:30:57
Event DPRK M-1973 destroyed by Novac at 13:31:48
Event DPRK ACRV destroyed by Novac at 13:31:56
Event U.S. M2A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:19
Event U.S. M2A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:23
Event U.S. M60A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:28
Event U.S. M60A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:30
Event U.S. M60A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:31
Event U.S. M60A3 destroyed by Floyd at 13:36:32
Event Griffin ejected at 13:38:16
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Novac at 13:41:06
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Novac at 13:41:09
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Novac at 13:41:11
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:16
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:18
Event DPRK MT55BL destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:23
Event DPRK M-1973 destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:25
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:27
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Elmo at 13:42:27
Event Elmo ejected at 13:45:27
Event Elmo exited from Falcon23 at 13:45:43
Event Novac landed at 13:50:24
Event Floyd landed at 13:52:47
Event Novac exited from Falcon22 at 13:54:18
Event Floyd exited from Falcon24 at 13:55:00
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PILOT SLOT 2:
Human Player: 2Lt. Novac
Callsign: Novac
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 5
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 5
Missed 0
Hit 5
Event AGM-65D released at 13:31:27@72hit M-1973 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:31:36@72hit ACRV - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:40:49@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:40:58@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:02@72hit T-62 - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: Mk-20D
Starting Load 6
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 3:
Human Player: Maj. Elmo
Callsign: Elmo
Pilot status - RESCUED
Aircraft status - DESTROYED
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 6
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 0
Hit 6
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:45@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:49@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:54@72hit M-1973 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:57@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:41:59@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:42:04@72hit MT55BL - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: Mk-20D
Starting Load 6
Fired 1
Missed 1
Hit 0
Event Mk-20D released at 13:45:10@72miss
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 1:
Human Player: Maj. Griffin
Callsign: Griffin
Pilot status - RESCUED
Aircraft status - DESTROYED
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 4
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 2
Hit 4
Event AGM-65D released at 13:27:42@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:27:54@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:28:03@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:44@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:50@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:56@72miss
LOADOUT 3: Mk-20D
Starting Load 6
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 4:
Human Player: Maj. Floyd
Callsign: Floyd
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 0
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 0
Hit 6
Event AGM-65D released at 13:35:55@72hit M2A3 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:03@72hit M2A3 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:08@72hit M60A3 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:11@72hit M60A3 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:14@72hit M60A3 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:17@72hit M60A3 - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: Mk-20D
Starting Load 6
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-131
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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| Crowebar |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 21:41:40
Blue Flight - Cowboy 1
Flight Role:CAS
Cowboy 11: "Crowebar" AA=0 AG=2 RTB
Cowboy 12: "Blade" AA=1 AG=6 RTB
Cowboy 13: "Helldiver" AA=0 AG=6 RTB
Cowboy 14: "Dmans1" AA=1 AG=4 RTB
Mission Outcome: MF
We decided on a mixed loadout due to possibility of poor visability over target area which may restrict AGM-65 operations. So armed with 6 X AGM-65, 2 X CBU-97 and 2 X CBU-87 we headed off towards the enemy positions. The AGM-65 and CBU-97 for the armour, and the CBU-87's for the infantry.
Ingress was straight forward and quite. We split into two formations en-route to attack armoured column in line of route (East - West) simultaneously at either end of the column.
Blade got a quick fix on the columns, which were moving and transmitted data the rest of us. The weather was reasonable in that we had vis up to around A9 giving us a bit of space for manouvre. We set about destroying the targets on multiple passes, during which #3 got hit and RTB'd due to damage, soon followed by #1 with same.
#2 & #4 finished attack on armour before proceeding to infantry battalion which the successfully destroyed with the CBU's. During this period 2 X Mig-29S got past the AI F18 escorts, but #2 & #4 quickly splashed them claiming a kill each. All 4 members of flight successfully RTB's but unfortunately looking at the debrief text we hit 2 X US vehicles.
A nice mission thanks Wolfman, enjoyed it.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Crowebar joined as Cowboy21 at 13:16:02
Event Blade joined as Cowboy22 at 13:16:04
Event Redhawk joined as Cowboy23 at 13:16:08
Event Dmans1 joined as Cowboy24 at 13:16:09
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:46
Event DPRK M-1973 destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:48
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:51
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:54
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:56
Event DPRK MT55BL destroyed by Redhawk at 13:29:59
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Dmans1 at 13:30:04
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Dmans1 at 13:30:05
Event DPRK ACRV destroyed by Blade at 13:31:03
Event DPRK ZSU23-4 destroyed by Blade at 13:31:06
Event DPRK ZIL-135 destroyed by Blade at 13:31:09
Event DPRK ZIL-135 destroyed by Blade at 13:31:13
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Dmans1 at 13:32:59
Event DPRK M-1973 destroyed by Dmans1 at 13:33:01
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Blade at 13:34:48
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Blade at 13:34:51
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Crowebar at 13:35:15
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Crowebar at 13:36:31
Event DPRK T-62 destroyed by Blade at 13:40:42
Event Redhawk landed at 13:41:51
Event DPRK MiG-29S downed by Dmans1 at 13:42:48
Event DPRK MiG-29S downed by Blade at 13:44:24
Event U.S. M109 destroyed by Blade at 13:46:43
Event U.S. M109 destroyed by Blade at 13:47:55
Event Redhawk exited from Cowboy23 at 13:48:23
Event Crowebar landed at 13:51:25
Event Dmans1 landed at 13:54:17
Event Blade landed at 13:56:08
Event Dmans1 exited from Cowboy24 at 13:57:15
Event Blade exited from Cowboy22 at 13:57:43
Event Crowebar exited from Cowboy21 at 13:58:03
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PILOT SLOT 4:
Human Player: 2Lt. Dmans1
Callsign: Dmans1
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 1
AG Kills 4
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 1
Missed 0
Hit 1
Event AIM-120C released at 13:41:57@72hit MiG-29S - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 4
Hit 2
Event AGM-65D released at 13:32:43@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:32:49@72hit M-1973 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:32:55@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:33:00@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:35:01@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:35:06@72miss
LOADOUT 3: CBU-87 CEM
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 2
Hit 0
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:40:41@72miss
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:40:42@72miss
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-184
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 5: CBU-97 SFW
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 0
Hit 2
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:29:41@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:29:41@72hit T-62 - destroyed
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PILOT SLOT 1:
Human Player: 2Lt. Crowebar
Callsign: Crowebar
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - DAMAGED
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 2
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 4
Missed 2
Hit 2
Event AGM-65D released at 13:31:37@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:31:43@72miss
Event AGM-65D released at 13:35:06@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:36:22@72hit T-62 - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: CBU-87 CEM
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-184
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 5: CBU-97 SFW
Starting Load 2
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
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PILOT SLOT 3:
Human Player: LtC. Helldiver
Callsign: Redhawk
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - DAMAGED
AA Kills 0
AG Kills 6
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120C
Starting Load 4
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 0
Hit 6
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:23@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:28@72hit M-1973 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:31@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:36@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:40@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:29:45@72hit MT55BL - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: CBU-87 CEM
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 2
Hit 0
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:33:16@72miss
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:33:17@72miss
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-184
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 5: CBU-97 SFW
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 2
Hit 0
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:31:10@72miss
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:31:55@72miss
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PILOT SLOT 2:
Human Player: Capt. Blade
Callsign: Blade
Pilot status - OK
Aircraft status - OK
AA Kills 1
AG Kills 7
AS Kills 0
AN Kills 0
Shoot At 0
Other Player Kills 0
WEAPON DATA
LOADOUT 0: 20mm M61
Starting Load 510
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 1: AIM-120B
Starting Load 4
Fired 1
Missed 0
Hit 1
Event AIM-120B released at 13:43:31@72hit MiG-29S - destroyed
LOADOUT 2: AGM-65D
Starting Load 6
Fired 6
Missed 0
Hit 6
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:45@72hit ACRV - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:49@72hit ZSU23-4 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:30:53@72hit ZIL-135 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:31:01@72hit ZIL-135 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:34:25@72hit T-62 - destroyed
Event AGM-65D released at 13:34:33@72hit T-62 - destroyed
LOADOUT 3: CBU-87 CEM
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 0
Hit 2
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:46:20@72hit M109 - destroyed
Event CBU-87 CEM released at 13:47:37@72hit M109 - destroyed
LOADOUT 4: ALQ-184
Starting Load 1
Fired 0
Missed 0
Hit 0
LOADOUT 5: CBU-97 SFW
Starting Load 2
Fired 2
Missed 1
Hit 1
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:38:22@72miss
Event CBU-97 SFW released at 13:40:32@72hit T-62 - destroyed
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| Floyd |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 14:26:09
Wolfman, in my opinion the weather conditions were pretty good for this
mission. The only "problem" was the identification of friend and foe.
IRL one usually has the support of ground troops pointing their lasers
or marking the vehicles with smoke ...
All in all a very good mission! |
| Crowebar |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 13:55:57
Hi Wolfman. You can set the time for weather to change in the weather settings. It then starts changing gradually in the TE from about 15 to 20 minutes before the set time.
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| wolfman |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 12:10:12
When I was working with the mission I had in my mind that we should use precision target weapons in order to avoid ”friendly kills” I made the enemy units to move around and to close in to the airfield and at the same time get in contact with our troops. I think I should highlighted that in my description. One other thing; The weather and visibility condition was always good during my test flights The poor weather statement in the TE made an important factor for wrong decision during our briefing and weapon selection. Some learning for me! |
| mango |
Posted - 22 May 2012 : 04:54:07
Fury1 PPcas
Fury11 Mango AA0 AG1 RTB
Fury12 Wolfman AA0 AG1 RTB
Fury13 Joif AA0 AG1
Fury14 AI
MF
Took off gained altitude and attacked the infantry batt. one pass each. 1 2 and 4 armed with MK20d cluster bombs 3 with AGM 154s.
Flew on to our SP 5 the tank Batt. The tanks had moved of course so our intention to attack CCRP on original location did not work.
Joif went beneath clouds eyeballed the tanks told us were to look and dropped ordanance the smoke from which marked target for us.
Soon after Joif lost engine and crashed. 1 made another 2 passes dropping bombs CCIP with no great success and then had to RTB due to damaged aircraft. Did not encounter air threats.
In conclusion: obviously wrong choice of ordanance we thought the weather would be much worse.
Did not pick up the tanks on GMT for some reason had to eyeball them.
No debrief file. We did get our 2 tanks and Joifs Jsows must have obliterated the infantry, AT3s and all (not to speak of half of Seoul
as very sad collateral damage...) all in all interesting mission. |
| Griffin |
Posted - 21 May 2012 : 19:33:44
Black Flight - Falcon 2
Flight Role: PPCAS
Falcon 21: "Griffin" AA=0 AG=4 RTB
Falcon 22: "Novac" AA=0 AG=5 RTB
Falcon 23: "Elmo" AA=0 AG=6 EJT
Falcon 24: "Floyd" AA=0 AG=0 RTB
Mission Outcome: MF
No debrief text for us, only for Cowboy!
Interestingly there was a difference inopinion during the briefing on the choice of ground weapons, with the predicted poor weather in mind.
We opted for 6x AGM65D and 2xAGM65G, the latter to be used to help the other squadrons if needed.
The short take off to action distance didn't give the Maverics time to warm up and we had over shot the area by the time they had.
Initally the plan was that the first element would go in and attack the southern tank battalion while the second stayed on air cover. A call to AWACs cancelled that as there were no threats around. So Elmo and Floyd looked for the other targets.
I found ours and killed four T-62's with six Maverics, the weather not being a factor at around 8000'. However the falck was and I was hit on two separate occasions which forced me to RTB with no HUD and no MFD's!
Novac went in to kill some more.
The second element had mixed success and Elmo killed a nice count but our allied battalion was "mating" with the enemy and we had a number of freindlies hit by us. This contributed to the overall mission failure of the package.
Like myself, Elmo succumbed to flak and ejected while Floyd and Novac returned home.
A short but enjoyable and deceptably difficult mission. Given the limits of detail in the sim it was hard to discern friend from foe, but it was interesting listening to the attempted co-ordination in the search form the enemy, which I thought was pretty good.
Nice mission Wolfman. 
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