| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Vosene |
Posted - 17 Jan 2010 : 22:09:39
Members who flew as a Flight Lead in the Sunday mission, 1-2-3 and Breathe, are requested to post a debrief by Tuesday evening.
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| 6 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Theron |
Posted - 19 Jan 2010 : 20:59:04
quote:
Originally posted by Novac
Falcon11 picked up the MIG 23's on way home. Tiag had them engaged.
Cowboy flight 20 miles in trail. This is where Cowboy could have done more to support, as a single MIG got past Falcon11.
We should have gone into burner to try and engage. But I held the flight back as not to risk a MS for Lobo flight if we got hit.
In the end MIG was destroyed by Lobo.
After we all landed a long debrief followed as to who was engaging the final MIGs.
Basically due to the wording in the brief I did not engage. Which was wrong on my part. As human pilots RTBing should be more important than a MS.
One thing to note. It would have been more clear if the brief had said "No A2A losses to strike until they reach the target" Unless there is a specific reason for a flight not to engage etc. That way we wouldn't have had a misunderstanding or have been restricted.
Sounds like it was your fault, not mine. if you disagree with me take it to the feedback thread here please: http://www.185th.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4543
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| Novac |
Posted - 19 Jan 2010 : 18:58:15
Mission Type: Deep Strike
Flight Callsign: Cowboy1
2 Ship Flight
Ac type: F-16C-52 CCIP
Country: Slovenian
Cowboy flight.
#1 Novac
#2 Griffin
Mixture of BSU49, BSU50, MK82 and Center tank.
Stayed pretty much to the original route. Only changes made were to the IP point which we moved to avoid flying over any IR Sam's.
Held at sp3 while Lobo engaged enemy aircraft.
2 of the SA2's were unable to be destroyed by Falcon flight but as our plan was for low level attack anyway this had no effect.
No problems at target site despite power plant needing more direct hits to destroy than in practice
Falcon11 picked up the MIG 23's on way home. Tiag had them engaged.
Cowboy flight 20 miles in trail. This is where Cowboy could have done more to support, as a single MIG got past Falcon11.
We should have gone into burner to try and engage. But I held the flight back as not to risk a MS for Lobo flight if we got hit.
In the end MIG was destroyed by Lobo.
After we all landed a long debrief followed as to who was engaging the final MIGs.
Basically due to the wording in the brief I did not engage. Which was wrong on my part. As human pilots RTBing should be more important than a MS.
One thing to note. It would have been more clear if the brief had said "No A2A losses to strike until they reach the target" Unless there is a specific reason for a flight not to engage etc. That way we wouldn't have had a misunderstanding or have been restricted.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Novac joined as Cowboy11 at 07:02:07
Event Griffin joined as Cowboy12 at 07:02:19
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Novac at 07:40:23
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Griffin at 07:41:19
Event Yugoslavian Power Plant destroyed by Novac at 07:43:33
Event Novac landed at 08:18:26
Event Novac landed at 08:18:30
Event Griffin landed at 08:20:35
Event Griffin exited from Cowboy12 at 08:24:50
Event Novac exited from Cowboy11 at 08:25:00
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| Medic |
Posted - 18 Jan 2010 : 09:25:43
Mission Type: Deep Strike
Flight Callsign: Cowboy1
Ac type: F-16C-52 CCIP
1. Medic
2. Theron
Loadout each:
4x AIM-120-C4
12x BSU-49
1x Jammer
Plan was to take off, fly enroute according to previously planned steerpoints at a slower speed of approximately 310 knots due to a higher drag factor given by BSU-49s.
As planned we had a rendezvous with tanker which refueled roughly 1500 lbs that had been burned since take off.
Continued route towards target area. Distance was about 160 nm which gave enough time for SEAD and SWEEP to take down any enemy SAMs and aircafts. This lead to the fact that during the entire flight we never had any enemy spike at all.
Visibility at target area was excellent with no ground units near the targets that couldve exposed to be dangerous to us while engaging the targets at a low flight level. Oriented at the original briefing that was sent out, we took down all targets required for a mission success ( 4 factories + 1 power plant )
On the way home AWACS recommended to divert to an alternate airbase due to enemies near home plate. Done did it.
FLIGHT EVENTS
Event Medic and Theron take off at 07:06:00
Event Medic and Theron refuel at 07:22:00
Event Yugoslavian Power Plant destroyed by Theron_185th at 07:55:59
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Theron_185th at 07:57:17
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Theron_185th at 08:00:20
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Medic at 08:00:50
Event Yugoslavian Factory destroyed by Medic at 08:02:32
Event Yugoslavian Warehouse destroyed by Theron_185th at 08:04:16
Event Medic and Theron landed at 08:34:20
Medic!
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| Dmans1 |
Posted - 18 Jan 2010 : 07:59:00
Lobo1 (Green-Blue)
1.Dmans1
2.Ballistic
3.AI
Plan: Fly A34 combat spread ahead of everyone, clearing the way, unless a 4ship active shooters came up.In that case we would grinder with the SEAD. TARCAP would be established over the target once cleared of the SAMS
Excecution-Shots Fired:
1st encounter was with a 2ship Mirage 2000-5. Good shorting, but 1st shots were both trashed. AI didn't make any shots even though he was directed to do so, but we managed to turn Hot and engage again. Downed both Mirages but lost Ballistic from a fox2 shot.
2nd encounter was a 2ship Mig23s North of the target area. 2 shots 2 kills. Established TARCAP after the engagement.
3rd Encounter was with a 2ship Mig29A east of the target. 1st shot was trashed, AI did absolutely nothing again,SEAD took over and deloused, then turned Hot and took down the remainder.In the meantime AI was shot down.
Winchester and RTB after that.My intention was to refuel on my way home since Mig23's were reported over the home plate and i would need that for the gun engagements, but due to a very strange technical issue i CTDed
Overall mission success.Nice balanced mission, excellent coop and support from the SEAD flight,excellent picture and early warnings from our AWACS
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| Panther_m |
Posted - 17 Jan 2010 : 23:03:06
Lobo Flight (Black)
1- Panther
2- Vosene
3- Floyd
We flew the original route in two groups. Initially we targeted a group of 2xM2000-5 and spend 4 Slammers to kill it. Then we detected and killed 3xMig23, 4xMig23 and 2xMig29. Finally and rtb Panther and Vosene engaged with guns and killed (Vosene did that) an attacker (Mig-23) of our home plate.
Excellent job from Vosene and Floyd.Also very good mission...
Bad cooperation from Panther and Tiag because the first one did not understood that the falcon's were late on the Sam's ......
Result's Panther 4-0 Vosene 5-0 Floyd 4-0
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| tiag |
Posted - 17 Jan 2010 : 22:35:28
Falcon Flight (Black)
1- Tiag
2- Bigbrother
3- AI
Followed the original route and waited everytime Lobo told so. Got to the target area. #1 and #3 shot 4 harms in one single SA-2 and it did not got destroyed. #2 fired one at one SA-2 but got shot down after it.
In the way home #1 attacked and destroyed some Floggers.
Mission failure for our flight due to one loss for SAMs.
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